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all right Higher Side Chatters it seems

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the more one might dig into the closed

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door activities of the elite the more

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messed up it gets from Spirit cooking

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and pizzagate to strange Backwoods

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rituals and odd entity alignments that

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don't match anything we've seen in the

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mainstream circles and not only do these

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activities exist to satisfy the sexual

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and Psychopathic desires of the Capstone

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cabal but it also seems like many of

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these Cloak and Dagger Traditions go

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back centuries as the preserved

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Bloodlines of powerful people work

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towards Arcane aims that make one wonder

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if they're even human well with us today

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is returning guest Tracy Twyman to dive

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deeply into her latest work in trying to

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understand the rituals and symbolic

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meanings behind some of today's most

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notorious secret Cults and traditions of

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the Upper Crust perhaps tracing back to

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the time of the Gods themselves you

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might remember the previous times Tracy

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has been here wants to talk about her

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book clock shavings and her personal

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exploration of the occult making contact

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with several entities including what

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seems to have been the legendary entity

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Baphomet and again more recently to

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discuss another book of hers Baphomet

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the temple mystery unveiled where she

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talks about the Knights Templar the

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disembodied head of John the Baptist and

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the idea that rituals and veneration for

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Baphomet by the Knights Templar was

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their secret source of power and

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knowledge that several of the financial

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Alchemy tools they used to amass their

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wealth emerged from both far out and

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interesting shows and of course Tracy

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has written several other great books

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about the subjects we love to explore

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including mind-controlled sex slaves in

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the CIA the dragon Legacy the secret

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history of an ancient bloodline money

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grows on the tree of knowledge and now

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her first novel genuflect which uses

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fiction as the vessel to discuss these

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deep level disclosures a little more

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safely so let's get this party started a

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woman who's not afraid to stare into the

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Heart of Darkness and say is that all

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you got Tracy Twyman welcome back to

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thank you so much Greg I appreciate you

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having me on yeah I really love having

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you here and this novel is fascinating

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and it goes into some really dark places

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it gets into those things at the deepest

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end of the conspiracy pool ritualistic

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rape and Murder By The Puppet Masters of

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the planet and obviously we've had a

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couple related dust UPS in the news

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cycle related to these things since we

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last talked but to kick this off since

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we're talking about a novel can you help

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clarify where the line is between facts

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and fiction in this new book because it

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seems pretty detailed and well

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researched but maybe the names have been

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changed to protect the author

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well I mean it should be fairly easy if

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you read it all the way to tell where

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the line is but there's some definite

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caveats and disclosures I need to make

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ahead of time so if you read you'll

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notice the main character Pamela auger

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seems a lot like me because she has a

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job kind of like mine writing books like

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mine she has books that are like mine

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she is kind of like me but she has a

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more exciting life and she's a little

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bit better suited to having Adventures

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you know so she doesn't have a husband

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and a child I don't think I even said

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what age she was I imagined her being a

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little bit younger and more fit and just

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what to imagine too much

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leave a bit to the imagination too some

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of the other characters involved people

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events so certainly there's a villain

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Michael Bloomberg and the reason for

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organizations doing you know rituals

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had seen my husband my previous

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husband's named Brian he's deceased now

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he and I were in England in 2005 and we

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came across this thing when we were just

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walking down the Strand which is in the

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city of London that Borough there's a

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district of London called the city of

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London which is the financial district

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ancient Temple of mithras that you know

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had been discovered it was left over

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that pre-existed everything else there

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in in England in London you know before

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there was before it was called England

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and so anyway there's this ancient Roman

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Temple you know to the God mithras but

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it had been moved to where we stumbled

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upon it from its original location which

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was just really a few feet down the road

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actually had to build the office

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building right away so they didn't even

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really have time to do proper archeology

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there but they picked up the temple and

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moved it down the road and tried to

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reconstruct it as best they could so the

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one I found was like a poorly

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reconstructed version and about a year

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or not even a year ago like eight a

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month ago or whenever I started

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outlining this novel I thought oh it

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would be great to mention the Temple of

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mesaris in the novel so I just looked it

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up you know refreshed my memory about

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where it was located and I came to find

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out that you know since 2005 last time I

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was in England Michael Bloomberg has

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purchased the land on which the original

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Temple of mithras the place where it had

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been discovered and he's building his

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headquarters when he originally started

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trying to do this but then Britain

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that's why he's now calling it just his

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London headquarters but anyway he's

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building this huge building he's going

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building in terms of land mass and I

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materials that's being used it's one of

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other words that has occurred in London

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and so it's going to be right there

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where the original Temple of mithras was

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and he's moving he's already done it

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really moved the reconstructed Temple

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back to its original place the exact

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same spot where it used to be and he's

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going to try to renovate it better than

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ever so anyway when I discovered this I

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thought well I have to have

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you know a scene there at that Temple

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and then I started researching mithrism

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and saibo worship

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which I had already decided I was going

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to work into the story somehow and it

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all just sort of came together it

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perfectly and it became this I mean I I

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but that became the

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you know opening point at which

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everything that I had planned on putting

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in my story sort of came together in

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this magical way

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that I didn't even realize was as

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perfect as it turned out to be so yeah

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so the location is based on a real

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location which is this real Temple of

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mithras has been moved to this place

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and the new Bloomberg building is going

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to be opened

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and well they told me before the third

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quarter of this year when I started

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writing this they weren't saying

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so I just projected and I said you know

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well maybe it'll happen by March of 2018

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and then there was some very important

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dates having to do with the end of March

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in 2018 that ended up becoming part of

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the story the main characters based on

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Bloomberg but you know it's a lot I mean

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because my character is interested in in

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a lot of really deep subjects you know a

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lot of esoteric occult subjects and he's

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interested in philosophy and surrealist

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art and stuff and of course he's

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involved in some really nefarious things

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like raping children and murdering

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people and all these are things that I

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have no reason to believe Michael

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Bloomberg is doing so I guess that's

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where the fact and fiction separate

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right fair enough and I do find this

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mithras Temple find really intriguing

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the idea that Bloomberg is

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concerned about it at all is fascinating

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important and also how things were in

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the ancient world they always seem to

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try to be manifesting prophecy and all

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kinds of strange stuff that does often

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center around locations like this and

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Bloomberg place is supposed to be like

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the smartest building in Europe built to

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generate its own energy and even share

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it with nearby buildings and you

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mentioned technology to maximize the

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efficiency of the workers inside and I

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Google and all that stuff and one of

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them did talk about this very company he

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started that is supposed to have

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something I imagined it working like a

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Wi-Fi signal like just radiating an area

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in a signal but that's what it's about

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is measuring brain waves and trying to

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biohack your way a greater efficiency

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and I was like wow I mean this is really

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what they're talking about like just

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having economic slaves isn't enough you

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really want to squeeze every last bit of

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blood out of them that you can it's

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messed up

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yeah well I mean reality again was

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provided you know everything I needed to

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create this fictional story and then I

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mean the whole thing just turned into

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this magical process because I would

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write things come up with things in my

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own mind that I thought were just

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totally made up and in fact I thought

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were kind of unbelievable and then you

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know I just do a little bit of research

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try to right work things in try to see

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what I could do to back it up a little

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bit and I'd find out that I'm exactly

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right now or that you know something

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that I had dreamed up sometimes it would

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happen a couple days after I wrote about

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it in my story and I hadn't shown it to

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anyone you know something very similar

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would happen in the news

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as far as the building is concerned yeah

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you know first I said to myself oh this

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Temple of Memphis is great I got to have

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some scenes here I started looking into

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the building that Michael Bloomberg is

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going to put there and yeah it's based

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on there's another building I guess in I

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think I'm gonna say the Netherlands yes

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it's the Netherlands and there's this

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Dutch

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designer who came up with a lot of these

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ideas I forget what the name of well

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okay they've got they've got this term

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and I guess it's in Dutch that means the

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new work and here's what it is man so

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okay you describe some of it in

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Bloomberg's planned building okay

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there's something called a digital

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ceiling

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and this it's you know yeah super energy

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efficient it

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knows everything that everyone's doing

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beneath it right so it's monitoring you

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with a camera with all kinds of other

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sensors that would monitor your heat and

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you know following each individual

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around the building as they go and the

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purpose of this they say is Energy

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Efficiency so they'll know when you're

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going somewhere when you've just arrived

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they need to provide more light and heat

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in that area for instance and you know

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the building is smart enough to figure

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out what your patterns are your habits

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you know during the day so it'll try to

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anticipate them and God and then there's

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this other thing where in this building

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one of these new work kind of buildings

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including Bloomberg's people will not

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have their own desks they must try to

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score a desk when they get to work and

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they're discouraged from using the same

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desk every day and they get lockers to

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put their possessions in because the

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tables that they have don't have drawers

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or anything so you're supposed to put

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your things in a locker and you

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shouldn't even use the same Locker two

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days in a row and oh and other things

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like especially the executives people

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kind of in charge of certain departments

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and stuff they can set up little codes

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that the digital ceiling will read so

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they can make like a hand gesture or

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something and it will know what in the

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building needs to happen next and it can

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signal robots to come and bring you food

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or

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Bloomberg's building is going to be

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crawling with you know self-sufficient

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robots and the building that it's kind

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of inspired by in the Netherlands is

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also you know already doing that the

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gate

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to the parking garage opens up you know

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right before you drive in because it

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knows it senses your card it knows who

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you are and it you know it opens up to

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greet you and

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oh then you've had a thing about how you

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know there's going to be a gym an

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exercise room and all the exercise

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equipment is hooked up to generators so

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that while you're exercising you're

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generating energy and okay the windows

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themselves are solar panels and in fact

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they're from what I was reading you know

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all the new buildings you know the ones

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that are built with any kind of decent

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budget the big skyscrapers and stuff

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they're all going to soon be covered

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with these windows that are actually

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sucking in solar energy too so he's got

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this amazing you know building that he's

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building with this idea of yes being

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energy efficient but also trying to with

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this new work concept where no one's

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allowed to have a desk or anything

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you know yeah supposedly try to make you

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interact more with the other employees

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or something I just to me I would never

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want to go to work it sounds awful right

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right what do you think Greg would you

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want to work in a place like that

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absolutely not I mean obviously some of

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that stuff from the technology

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standpoint sounds pretty appealing but

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it does also seem like it's a lot of

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Razzle Dazzle to hide some potential

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darkness and a more Cutthroat work

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environment for sure and I don't think

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uh we need any more of that but is there

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anything else we should say about this

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location of esoteric significance either

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in the ancient world or the Temple of

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mithras aspect rather than Bloomberg's

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building itself

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well I I have had my theories about what

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the significance might be you can tell

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it's a very significant spot and here's

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why for one thing

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it's right next to several buildings

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that are important to you know Finance

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particularly in England and of course

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you know

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thus by extension the rest of the world

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because

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London still is very much kind of the

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center of Finance in a lot of ways you

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know and like the gold and silver prices

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are still fixed there you know they

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still lead in a lot of ways the global

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markets and so it's symbolically and in

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in truth very significant for the world

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economy London is and in particular this

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District called the city of London which

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is really the original London you know I

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mentioned there was londinium the

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ancient Roman city well this quote city

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of London which is now just a district

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of London that's the original Roman city

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the walls of this District basically

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still correspond to what those original

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Roman walls were and the Romans had this

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object called the London Stone well we

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don't know if they what they call it but

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it's now called the London Stone and

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it's believed to go back to the Romans

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and that they used to they theorized

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they used to use it as a I think they'd

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call it a malarium stone

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so what it is is it's the stone that you

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would put

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in the middle of the city or you know if

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not the exact middle like the most

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significant area in the city and kind of

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try to put it in the middle and you

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measure everything else in the city out

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from that point

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so anyway that's what they think this

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rock originally was well it's been

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symbolically significant to the city of

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London even before England became a

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country

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and you know people theorize that maybe

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this Stone was involved with the

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coronation of Chieftains and stuff

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before there were Kings of England and

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then

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even after England got created

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the city of London continued to be its

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own separate entity legally and so

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there's a tradition that even the

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Monarch has to ask for Mission from the

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legal head of the city of London which

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is this position called lord mayor so

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the the queen you know theoretically or

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traditionally should ask the Lord mayor

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for permission to enter the city of

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London so right here in this The Heart

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of the City of London right where this

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London Stone object used to be and will

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again I believe according to what I've

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read it'll be returned there again soon

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so in this location that's the location

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that Michael Bloomberg chose to put his

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building that's where the Temple of

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mithras originally was and there's an

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underground river that flows right

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through it there's several underground

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rivers in London and this is one of the

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you know important ones it's called The

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Wall Brook and right next to Bloomberg's

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building there are several other

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important buildings such as the

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Rothschild building this is the building

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it's called new court it's been rebuilt

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several times but it is the same plot of

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land that the Rothschild had been

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possessing and controlling in London you

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know since 1700 since they began their

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you know Financial control of England

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and then you know other territories as

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well so this is kind of you know Ground

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Zero of at least that particular aspect

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of their empire and also okay so the

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bank of England is right next to it the

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London bullion Market where they at

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least they used to up until about a year

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ago set the price of gold and silver

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in that building that building is right

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there and so yeah you've got the London

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Stone you've got the Temple of mithras

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Bank of England London bullion Market

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Association all right there in this plot

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of land that's right around this this

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street called Buckler's Brewery

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and it's shaped like a Superman Diamond

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which is something I mentioned in the

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book and has a great deal of

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significance but so all these things

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there I think it's

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a little bit of a spoiler but I kind of

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think it's

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related to the myth that England is

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built on top of the island rests on top

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of the tomb of Kronos

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so there and this goes back to the

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Greeks they said that Kronos was built

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you know after the Titans got dethroned

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by the Olympian gods Kronos and his

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buddies

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got put in this tomb they call it but

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he's a God so he's not really dead so

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it's more like a prison and he's kind of

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sleeping there

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and they described it as being

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underneath the British Isles

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and for a number of reasons not the

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least of which is that mithras

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is considered the same as Saturn mithras

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is this Persian deity that was imported

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to the Roman Empire right and you know

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worshiped by Romans in the late part of

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the Roman Empire so mithras is Saturn

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Saturn is Kronos these are all names for

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the same figure so you've got a temple

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to mithras right there two Chrono Saturn

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and you've got a myth that Kronos is

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buried and kind of locked away in a

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tomb underneath England so I think it's

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right there I think that's the location

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there's a number of other reasons why I

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think that too most of which I explain

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eventually one way or another in the

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book but yeah that's what I think is

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going on there so it's kind of like you

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know one of these center of the world

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kind of areas you know it's a very

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sacred spot I think

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right yeah I love that Nexus of

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symbolism around mithras Kronos Saturn

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there are researchers out there who talk

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about the black sun or even it ties into

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the electric universe that Saturn might

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have once been our sun and just really

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weird stuff but it seems to be important

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to them at least and it's pretty clear

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the elite want to control certain spots

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on the planet for deep esoteric reasons

551
00:21:21,169 --> 00:21:19,380
that they aren't sharing with us and

552
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:21,179
before we do get too deep we should

553
00:21:25,490 --> 00:21:23,520
probably talk about those ancient Cults

554
00:21:27,289 --> 00:21:25,500
of mithras and cybel you mentioned

555
00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:27,299
cybell earlier I think people probably

556
00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:29,400
know a little less about that particular

557
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:31,860
entity but let's discuss maybe the the

558
00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:34,260
symbolism and traditions surrounding

559
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:35,820
them because I guess the suggestion is

560
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,700
that in some Elite occult circles at

561
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,320
least some of these Traditions might

562
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:41,760
still be intact

563
00:21:47,210 --> 00:21:44,880
well yes and one of the vectors through

564
00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:47,220
which these Traditions have continued on

565
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:49,620
I think is through templarism which then

566
00:21:55,789 --> 00:21:53,039
influenced Freemasonry and the Oto and a

567
00:21:57,230 --> 00:21:55,799
bunch of other Western esoteric groups

568
00:21:59,330 --> 00:21:57,240
but

569
00:22:01,789 --> 00:21:59,340
let's just start with cybel worship for

570
00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:01,799
instance which goes back way further you

571
00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:03,900
know she was worshiped in the history of

572
00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:06,419
the Romans way further back in history

573
00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:10,500
than mithras and you know it is again a

574
00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:12,120
import from

575
00:22:19,789 --> 00:22:17,220
phrygia from Anatolia but they

576
00:22:21,649 --> 00:22:19,799
you know Incorporated it well into their

577
00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:21,659
culture to the point where she kind of

578
00:22:25,789 --> 00:22:23,640
became an embodiment of the state to

579
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:25,799
them she's the mother goddess and so

580
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:27,000
she's considered

581
00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:29,280
equivalent to

582
00:22:35,810 --> 00:22:33,059
sort of kind of like Gaia and Rhea

583
00:22:38,270 --> 00:22:35,820
these kinds of mother goddesses from

584
00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:38,280
Greek mythology I make the point in the

585
00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:40,380
book that I think these are the same

586
00:22:43,970 --> 00:22:41,460
figure

587
00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:43,980
and I'm not just mashing all the girl

588
00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:46,260
goddesses together you know I'm not

589
00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:48,780
being sexist there's a real reason why I

590
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:50,580
think all these characters really are

591
00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:51,780
the same thing

592
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:56,340
so cybel's worship was marked with two

593
00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:00,240
very particular types of rituals one was

594
00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:02,100
the castration of the priests the

595
00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:04,500
priests would go into a frenzy

596
00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:08,220
during this Festival to cybell that

597
00:23:10,909 --> 00:23:09,960
would happen once a year at the end of

598
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,919
March

599
00:23:14,990 --> 00:23:12,480
they'd have a

600
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,000
you know a parade they'd go walking down

601
00:23:21,049 --> 00:23:17,760
the street drunk and on drugs going to a

602
00:23:23,390 --> 00:23:21,059
you know religiously induced frenzy and

603
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:23,400
then the priests or the wannabe priests

604
00:23:27,649 --> 00:23:24,780
the ones that were being inducted into

605
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,659
the priesthood would castrate themselves

606
00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:29,039
with a knife right there in front of

607
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:30,120
everybody

608
00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:34,799
and this is all in homage to Addis whose

609
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:38,340
cybel's son and the whole mythology of

610
00:23:43,070 --> 00:23:40,679
cybel and Addis is really the main myth

611
00:23:47,149 --> 00:23:43,080
of the cybell worship so the story is

612
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:47,159
that she was a goddess

613
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,960
the mother goddess

614
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:51,360
she had a son

615
00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:52,860
she

616
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,320
initially according to the more detailed

617
00:24:01,130 --> 00:23:58,159
versions of the story didn't want him

618
00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:01,140
and exposed him you know left him for

619
00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:03,240
dead basically as an infant and left him

620
00:24:08,570 --> 00:24:05,940
alone but someone else found him raised

621
00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:08,580
him up and then when he became an adult

622
00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:10,740
or not even an adult really but you know

623
00:24:15,409 --> 00:24:13,140
when he began to mature

624
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,419
and he was like a prepubescent child is

625
00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:17,760
how I take it from the description

626
00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:20,820
she fell in love with him and

627
00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:22,500
depending on which version of the story

628
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:24,059
you read you know some kind of gloss

629
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:25,740
over this part but it kind of seems like

630
00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:27,059
if you go into the more detailed

631
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:29,820
versions that she had a sexual

632
00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:32,039
relationship with him when he was young

633
00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:35,880
but then he wanted to marry a woman you

634
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,700
know when he grew up and they were going

635
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:40,320
to get married and some versions of the

636
00:24:45,769 --> 00:24:42,360
story they're actually at the altar you

637
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:45,779
know getting married and sybelle shows

638
00:24:50,269 --> 00:24:48,480
up and according to some versions well

639
00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:50,279
the most common version is just that she

640
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:52,760
filled him with Madness deliberately

641
00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:56,880
inducing him to castrate himself and

642
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,120
then he bled out and died and you know

643
00:25:05,390 --> 00:25:02,640
that was her revenge to him for loving

644
00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:05,400
someone else but then the story goes

645
00:25:10,850 --> 00:25:07,620
that she felt bad she felt guilty she

646
00:25:13,310 --> 00:25:10,860
missed him and so either one to three

647
00:25:15,169 --> 00:25:13,320
days later depending on the version she

648
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:15,179
resurrected him and then this is

649
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,880
celebrated in the rights of Addis

650
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:19,919
so this would all happen in the same

651
00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:20,640
week

652
00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:24,840
1st

653
00:25:28,909 --> 00:25:26,940
so one day they'd celebrate the

654
00:25:31,310 --> 00:25:28,919
castration a few days later they

655
00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:31,320
celebrate his resurrection and you know

656
00:25:35,149 --> 00:25:32,820
again it's all

657
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:35,159
you know synced up with the similar

658
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:37,080
kinds of death and Resurrection rights

659
00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:39,419
we have now with Jesus right you know so

660
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:43,559
it's it's all tied into Easter so in my

661
00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:45,720
story by the way Easter this is true

662
00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:47,220
next year

663
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:49,380
Easter and April Fool's Day will be the

664
00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:51,960
same day April 1st next year is going to

665
00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:55,460
be Easter so I utilized that in my story

666
00:26:00,850 --> 00:25:57,960
we haven't had this kind of Confluence

667
00:26:04,909 --> 00:26:00,860
of April Fool's Day and Easter Since

668
00:26:06,409 --> 00:26:04,919
1956. so I tied that in with my story

669
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:06,419
because I had you know the Temple of

670
00:26:10,909 --> 00:26:09,240
Methodist that was discovered in 1954 I

671
00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:10,919
had some important events in the story

672
00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:13,799
taking place between those two years

673
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:16,020
so this is like you know when you're

674
00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:18,600
reading the story now it's we're kind of

675
00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:21,659
recreating things that happened the last

676
00:26:26,110 --> 00:26:23,820
time there was an Easter on April Fool's

677
00:26:28,669 --> 00:26:26,120
Day which by the way April Fool's Day is

678
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,679
linked up with Easter and with the fact

679
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,440
that we used to have

680
00:26:36,289 --> 00:26:33,120
you know in the West

681
00:26:37,789 --> 00:26:36,299
we used to have that as kind of the well

682
00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:37,799
New Year's Day

683
00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:41,640
it was April 1st for some countries in

684
00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:43,140
the west up until

685
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,760
I forget it was like two or three

686
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,799
hundred years ago anyway so they they

687
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,200
still call this day Lady Day

688
00:26:52,970 --> 00:26:51,840
or the day that it's linked up with I

689
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,980
know I'm getting something wrong here

690
00:26:57,529 --> 00:26:54,960
because I'm trying to remember what was

691
00:27:00,049 --> 00:26:57,539
uh I have to look it up lady day was

692
00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:00,059
like maybe the 25th I don't know it's

693
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:02,460
all explained in the book but late okay

694
00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:03,840
lady day

695
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:08,700
April Fool's Day and this other date of

696
00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:10,500
you know celebrating it is New Year's

697
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,419
Day all these things are linked together

698
00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:13,919
the reason why they would call it April

699
00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:16,020
Fool's Day is that's sort of a joke on

700
00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:18,179
the people that we're still considering

701
00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:19,380
it to be

702
00:27:24,289 --> 00:27:22,440
you know the New Year's Day so a long

703
00:27:26,570 --> 00:27:24,299
explanation but anyway that's some of

704
00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:26,580
the use of the cybell symbolism that

705
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,860
comes up interesting and there's way

706
00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:30,960
more Greg if you have time I can tell

707
00:27:36,409 --> 00:27:32,940
you all about cybellum well I have heard

708
00:27:38,750 --> 00:27:36,419
you talk about cybel a little more and

709
00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:38,760
um really emphasize this idea of being

710
00:27:43,549 --> 00:27:40,620
represented by a rock or a

711
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,559
hermaphroditic rock and I think that's

712
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,440
pretty interesting because I like that

713
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:48,720
panspermia perspective that perhaps an

714
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,179
asteroid landed here and unpacked itself

715
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:53,760
and eventually manifested man who will

716
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:55,980
then eventually manifest some tech form

717
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,500
it's really interesting concept but a

718
00:28:01,789 --> 00:27:59,760
lot of people have suggested you know

719
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:01,799
the Dome on the Rock is just an asteroid

720
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,559
and people they kind of laugh about that

721
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:07,440
but if it really was the source of life

722
00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:10,020
on Earth potentially then maybe there's

723
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,460
deeper significance there than people

724
00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:14,399
realize but I just liked that idea of

725
00:28:18,169 --> 00:28:16,140
the hermaphroditic Rock and it could be

726
00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:18,179
an asteroid that contained two Sexes

727
00:28:23,090 --> 00:28:21,480
that built everything we have now so

728
00:28:25,549 --> 00:28:23,100
that's kind of weird but I guess I would

729
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:25,559
ask cybell and mithras is there some

730
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,620
linkage between there I think so and the

731
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:30,000
things that I found

732
00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:32,520
proved it to me the interesting thing is

733
00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:34,020
that

734
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:37,320
I would say modern myth experts and

735
00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:40,559
history experts try to debunk the idea

736
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,080
that there's any real link between these

737
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,559
two Cults but if you go back to the

738
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,200
early 20th century in the late 19th

739
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:50,880
century the writings that were being

740
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:54,000
done about mithras back then and I would

741
00:28:59,090 --> 00:28:57,360
suggest Jesse Weston has a good book

742
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,100
about the subject that gets into the

743
00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:01,679
subject from ritual to romance is good

744
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:03,960
and then also Franz Kumon wrote several

745
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:06,960
books about mithras so if you want to

746
00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:08,760
get you know where I'm getting some of

747
00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:11,940
my information that's a good place to go

748
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,520
anyway here's the idea okay so first of

749
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:17,039
all yes you've got Sai Bell

750
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:20,520
was worshiped as a rock and

751
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,000
there's statues of her that they claim

752
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:26,159
were carved from a meteorite you know a

753
00:29:31,610 --> 00:29:28,860
stone from Heaven that was her and then

754
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:31,620
they made a statue out of her and then

755
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:33,960
there's also references to her as a rock

756
00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:35,700
where

757
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:37,860
there's no statue involved you just

758
00:29:44,029 --> 00:29:40,799
Envision people worshiping Iraq which I

759
00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:44,039
think is why some authors have theorized

760
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,200
that maybe the one at the Kaaba the

761
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,240
Blackstone at the Kaaba might actually

762
00:29:53,930 --> 00:29:51,600
be the cybel stone because I think I

763
00:29:55,850 --> 00:29:53,940
don't think we have the stone that they

764
00:29:57,649 --> 00:29:55,860
were really worshiping as cybel I think

765
00:29:59,210 --> 00:29:57,659
that that's been lost

766
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,220
so I don't think we really know what it

767
00:30:03,409 --> 00:30:01,679
look what it really looked like but

768
00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:03,419
yeah I think originally there was this

769
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:05,340
idea she's a stone and she fell from

770
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:06,320
heaven

771
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:09,840
they link her with this other I think

772
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,039
it's just another name for the same

773
00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:13,679
goddess another phrygian name so agditus

774
00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:16,440
is another name for the same person and

775
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:19,140
they describe this figure as being

776
00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:21,299
originally hermaphroditic

777
00:30:25,370 --> 00:30:22,679
and then

778
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,380
the other gods in heaven thought that

779
00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:28,080
this creature was a freak and they

780
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:31,380
didn't like it so they cut her penis off

781
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:34,140
and then cast her out of heaven so there

782
00:30:37,370 --> 00:30:35,640
you have the idea of the rock you know

783
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:37,380
cybell coming from heaven but it has

784
00:30:42,529 --> 00:30:40,559
been castrated now so now it's a goddess

785
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,539
and then she gives birth to a son right

786
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,600
and that son is celebrated at us

787
00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:47,520
but then we also have this other

788
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:50,460
phrygian God mithras now mithras is born

789
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:51,779
from a rock

790
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,080
and it's just like you know as if yeah

791
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,640
there's just a stone there on the ground

792
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,799
it pops open and there's this guy comes

793
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:01,200
out and he's holding they always show

794
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:03,480
him coming out of the rock holding on in

795
00:31:07,850 --> 00:31:05,220
one hand a knife and in the other hand a

796
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,860
torch so he can see you know in the

797
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:09,600
realm that he's coming

798
00:31:15,889 --> 00:31:12,720
into so it's like the rock is sort of a

799
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:15,899
portal you know but it's also an egg

800
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:18,240
is like there's a universe inside that

801
00:31:20,930 --> 00:31:19,200
egg

802
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,940
and then he comes out and now he's in

803
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:23,039
this universe and he's the God of this

804
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:25,980
universe and this is what I found over

805
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,500
and over again in the kinds of rituals

806
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:30,480
and myths that I ended up dealing with

807
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:32,940
for this story that is the story they

808
00:31:38,509 --> 00:31:35,519
seem to be telling mithras

809
00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:38,519
is like and I'm using sort of the most

810
00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:40,380
developed versions of the story you know

811
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:42,779
when you've got all the different lines

812
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,720
of influence coming together at the late

813
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:48,000
Roman Empire when they've taken the

814
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:50,220
Persian myth and mixed in their own

815
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,340
stuff then you get this God who's like

816
00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:56,399
Saturn but he conquers the sun he

817
00:32:01,610 --> 00:31:58,500
conquers all these other gods

818
00:32:03,529 --> 00:32:01,620
and he becomes God himself the story of

819
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:03,539
him emerging from The Rock and then

820
00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:05,340
there's these stories of him you know

821
00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:07,620
slaying a bull and encountering all

822
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:09,240
these other figures there's always in

823
00:32:13,789 --> 00:32:11,220
mythrams a picture of him

824
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:13,799
shaking hands with Saul

825
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:16,799
and then Saul kneeling to him so go

826
00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:19,620
ahead oh no uh I just I think it's all

827
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:23,159
so interesting and I had uh Chris

828
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:26,039
Knowles on the show not long ago and he

829
00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:28,320
was talking about the symbolism of that

830
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:31,080
Prometheus statue at Rockefeller Center

831
00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:32,640
or that statue that they say is

832
00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:35,100
Prometheus and he was taking a deeper

833
00:32:39,950 --> 00:32:38,220
look at it and how the figure isn't

834
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:39,960
actually chained to the Rock but looks

835
00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:42,120
like it's emerging from it and he was

836
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:44,220
suggesting that they're basically hiding

837
00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:46,200
that this might be actually a statue of

838
00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:49,080
mithras and it does seem like there's a

839
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:50,820
lot of layers to what they're really

840
00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:53,220
into deep below the surface but how

841
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:55,500
should we maybe tie this to uh modern

842
00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:56,640
day because I think a lot of people

843
00:33:00,350 --> 00:32:58,260
would assume these old traditions and

844
00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:00,360
Cults would have just died out along

845
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:02,460
with the things they used to partake in

846
00:33:06,049 --> 00:33:04,260
but What suggests it's still going on

847
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,059
clearly Bloomberg has an interest in

848
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,880
that mithras Temple but do we see other

849
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:10,679
indications that they're still very

850
00:33:15,710 --> 00:33:14,159
interested in this stuff oh yeah and

851
00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:15,720
I'll try to work that into my answer

852
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,700
here because I want to I want to sort of

853
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:19,320
add something to what I was just saying

854
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:22,140
about the Rock and Memphis okay the

855
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:24,059
story of mithras

856
00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:26,220
there's a version of it that kind of

857
00:33:32,110 --> 00:33:28,919
elaborates on what happens next and how

858
00:33:34,009 --> 00:33:32,120
he has his own son he creates his own

859
00:33:38,509 --> 00:33:34,019
error right

860
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:38,519
they say that mithras hated women

861
00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:41,880
and the mithras cult was an all-male

862
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:42,779
cult

863
00:33:47,389 --> 00:33:45,840
and they even you know the rituals they

864
00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:47,399
had the kind of phrases they used in the

865
00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:48,600
rituals you can tell they did not like

866
00:33:51,889 --> 00:33:49,740
women

867
00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:51,899
and so this this myth says mithras

868
00:33:57,409 --> 00:33:53,640
himself did not like women but he wanted

869
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:57,419
an heir he wanted a son so he ejaculated

870
00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:00,799
onto a rock and The Rock became pregnant

871
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,480
and a child came from that which they

872
00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:06,000
say is fannies it's like the the orphic

873
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:09,240
egg came from that so an orphic egg is

874
00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:11,099
you know it's a universe in itself so

875
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,280
what we have here is a story of a God

876
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:17,280
who came from a rock himself and then

877
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:19,440
went on to create another

878
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:22,320
God and Another Universe really with the

879
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:26,399
same process of ejaculating onto a rock

880
00:34:33,290 --> 00:34:30,419
so okay this is all interesting because

881
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:33,300
I think it ties in with this idea you

882
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,399
know that we're in a matrix or a false

883
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,159
reality hmm you mentioned the Saturn

884
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,800
Cube idea which is so popular now right

885
00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:42,960
you know the idea that the figure of

886
00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:46,139
Saturn whatever he is is created some

887
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:48,359
kind of world of Illusion for us to live

888
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:50,760
in and we're inside of this box

889
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,700
well so you know I think that that's

890
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:55,440
what this story is hinting at about

891
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:58,079
mithras but of course whoever came up

892
00:35:02,630 --> 00:34:59,760
with it wouldn't have known anything

893
00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:02,640
about computers or virtual reality or

894
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:04,440
anything and really that's the version

895
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:07,020
of these ideas that we have now in our

896
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,760
reality but there's a lot of other ways

897
00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:10,560
you could picture the same thing kind of

898
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:12,180
happening and we have computers with

899
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:13,560
buttons on them now maybe it's something

900
00:35:17,569 --> 00:35:15,540
else in another dimension

901
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:17,579
so that's that's I think this is a story

902
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:21,599
about mithras breaking out of one false

903
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:24,180
artificial prison world

904
00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:28,320
and then making his own you know and I

905
00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:29,640
think that

906
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:32,520
the elite there's some of them that have

907
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,380
the same idea because you know last year

908
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:35,760
you had a story that came out that was

909
00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:36,680
in the news

910
00:35:41,089 --> 00:35:39,240
reprinted in several different you know

911
00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:41,099
mainstream newspapers and magazines they

912
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:42,780
all had kind of paraphrased versions of

913
00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:44,760
the same story where they were saying

914
00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:46,920
there's a group of billionaires and they

915
00:35:49,790 --> 00:35:48,420
wouldn't give it a name it wasn't like a

916
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:49,800
secret society or anything they just

917
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:50,940
said there's a group of billionaires

918
00:35:54,890 --> 00:35:53,280
secret because they're secret but there

919
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:54,900
was not like a name to the group or

920
00:35:59,930 --> 00:35:56,700
anything but they said that these

921
00:36:01,730 --> 00:35:59,940
billionaires are working secretly on

922
00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:01,740
some kind of way to break us out of the

923
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,300
Matrix they believe we're in a

924
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,280
simulation and they're gonna break us

925
00:36:09,650 --> 00:36:08,160
out and then that story just went nobody

926
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:09,660
addressed it again

927
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:11,640
there was no elaboration on who these

928
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:13,560
guys are or what they're doing

929
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:15,060
it was right around the time the story

930
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:16,680
came out just as I'm already writing

931
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:19,500
this story and I didn't intend on using

932
00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:22,020
that idea in my story but it ended up

933
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:23,700
just going there you know that's where

934
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,460
the information led me

935
00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:29,280
and so you know that's the kind of thing

936
00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:31,500
I guess that you know not to spoil it

937
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:34,380
too much but that is the sort of thing

938
00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:37,380
that the villain in my story is aiming

939
00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:41,880
towards and using the building

940
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:45,060
as a technology device to do that as

941
00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:46,800
part of the story

942
00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:49,980
um yeah I really do love those ideas

943
00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:53,160
that the elites true plan and agenda is

944
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,099
to try to jailbreak this enclosure it

945
00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:58,800
gets into that idea of subverting the

946
00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:01,380
Gods you know the whole Lucifer Motif we

947
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:03,780
see a lot of Lucifer symbolism and it

948
00:37:09,710 --> 00:37:06,560
really does get to that place of

949
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:09,720
wondering is the entity that built this

950
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:12,420
thing is the creator of this construct a

951
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:14,520
positive or negative entity I know you

952
00:37:19,609 --> 00:37:16,859
did a great show with Marty Leeds who I

953
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,619
really like and who has really become a

954
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,119
friend of mine and is a pretty clear

955
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:23,520
proponent of the Flat Earth model of

956
00:37:27,650 --> 00:37:25,800
course Marty is an optimist and our

957
00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:27,660
biggest disagreement is about that stuff

958
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,660
like is this Creator entity positive or

959
00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:32,400
negative if it's a negative entity who

960
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,940
has this on some Prison Planet arconic

961
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,400
energy farm then maybe the elites plan

962
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:40,800
to jailbreak it isn't so bad but if it

963
00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:43,020
is supposed to be some Paradise crafted

964
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:45,480
by an altruistic being then they're

965
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,220
definitely up to know good so it's

966
00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:50,400
really just depends on how you view the

967
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:53,700
moral alignments of these characters

968
00:37:59,630 --> 00:37:57,420
well I think the what I ended up finding

969
00:38:03,770 --> 00:37:59,640
in my research because I got deep into

970
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,780
the secrets of the Oto for instance I

971
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,040
mean I'm pretty sure I've seen things

972
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:07,920
that only a handful of people on earth

973
00:38:13,089 --> 00:38:10,800
have seen damn other than you know other

974
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,099
Oto initiates not very many

975
00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:14,880
non-initiates have seen what I've seen

976
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:16,500
and

977
00:38:22,609 --> 00:38:20,099
yeah so I got into researching the

978
00:38:25,849 --> 00:38:22,619
rituals of Aleister Crowley and the kind

979
00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:25,859
of stuff that he was into and also just

980
00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:27,540
Alchemy which you know I've been looking

981
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,640
at sort of bewilderedly for years and

982
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:31,440
trying to make head or tail of I figured

983
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:33,660
out years ago that it involves some

984
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,200
recipe of human blood and body parts and

985
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:38,880
things like that and the human soul

986
00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:41,160
utilizing all this stuff somehow sure

987
00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:44,940
but it seems to me what I found is a

988
00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:47,640
technology a magical technology and I'm

989
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:49,500
not saying I know all the ins and outs

990
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:52,020
of how it works but I deconstructed the

991
00:38:58,849 --> 00:38:55,140
symbolism of these secret rituals and

992
00:39:01,790 --> 00:38:58,859
recipes and they're talking about ways

993
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,800
of creating your own universe and

994
00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:04,560
destroying the one you're in now and you

995
00:39:08,450 --> 00:39:06,540
could actually just look at it as you

996
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:08,460
are trying to break out of the prison

997
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:11,160
you're in now and in the process you'll

998
00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:13,500
probably end up destroying the one that

999
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:16,740
you came from so I believe that I found

1000
00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:20,880
secret encoded magical instructions on

1001
00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:22,980
how to become your own God

1002
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,859
and in the process you either destroy or

1003
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,079
imprison or it's kind of

1004
00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:30,240
can be seen as both

1005
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,020
the world that you come from yeah

1006
00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:36,240
and you know you can you can see this

1007
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:38,280
when you look at some of the things that

1008
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:40,500
are easy to find are the Equinox of the

1009
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:43,280
Gods ritual that the Oto engages in

1010
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,020
there's writings that Aleister Crowley

1011
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,200
had about creating a homunculus right

1012
00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:51,420
through sex Magic

1013
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,060
and usually involves some kind of

1014
00:39:58,849 --> 00:39:56,880
unnatural birth his idea what he thought

1015
00:40:02,270 --> 00:39:58,859
would be the most potent way to do it

1016
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:02,280
would be to somehow impregnate an anus

1017
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:04,440
and have an anal birth

1018
00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:07,920
so that all made its way into the story

1019
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:09,960
gotta warn you guys it's pretty gruesome

1020
00:40:14,270 --> 00:40:12,300
but and it's it's uh definitely

1021
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:14,280
something that Aleister Crowley was

1022
00:40:17,569 --> 00:40:16,140
writing about right and when he's

1023
00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:17,579
talking about an anal birth he's talking

1024
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:21,180
about the anal birth of a universe and

1025
00:40:26,329 --> 00:40:23,640
he totally totally wrote about that in

1026
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,339
his Diaries if you look so you know

1027
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,319
there's

1028
00:40:33,470 --> 00:40:30,240
I guess the question of whether it's bad

1029
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:33,480
or good for us to be in a prison I don't

1030
00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:36,480
think that there is an answer to that

1031
00:40:41,329 --> 00:40:38,460
you know it depends on what side I guess

1032
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:41,339
you're on in or out right so if you're

1033
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,140
on the outside and you have a little

1034
00:40:47,329 --> 00:40:45,599
snow globe that entertains you then you

1035
00:40:48,890 --> 00:40:47,339
like it and you think it's good but if

1036
00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:48,900
you're in the snow globe and then you

1037
00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:51,480
realize that your world is fake you

1038
00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:53,700
might not like it right and especially

1039
00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:55,500
if you realize this is what I think is

1040
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,760
happening

1041
00:41:02,270 --> 00:40:58,800
the world

1042
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,280
that is either created by the God and

1043
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:04,319
also possibly the world that he leaves

1044
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:07,500
and ascends to you know to become higher

1045
00:41:13,849 --> 00:41:10,440
than I think that those worlds can be

1046
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:13,859
used as batteries and machines creating

1047
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:15,720
energy for you so

1048
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,839
I think that's going on now and you know

1049
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:21,359
to this the extent that we have

1050
00:41:26,089 --> 00:41:24,000
energy being siphoned out of our world

1051
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:26,099
and given to someone else on the outside

1052
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:29,280
that means that we are slaves and so you

1053
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:31,020
know from that perspective it seems bad

1054
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:33,060
right but I don't think there's any way

1055
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:34,560
to escape it without doing that to

1056
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:37,140
somebody else hmm

1057
00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:38,760
is uh

1058
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,880
that's pretty dark and I guess

1059
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:44,880
does this all culminate in what you're

1060
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:46,859
calling the Conquering of the sun ritual

1061
00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:50,220
can you detail that piece for us yeah

1062
00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:52,859
yeah I'll try to yeah this is a concept

1063
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,520
that I just found is in all of the Greek

1064
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,800
creation myths and you can pretty much

1065
00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:00,960
find it and a lot of the older you know

1066
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:03,480
major cultures creationists

1067
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:06,359
and then it's in alchemy it's in almost

1068
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:08,099
all of the alchemical

1069
00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:11,339
pictures and manuscripts so what it is

1070
00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:12,900
is

1071
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,900
the idea that each cycle you know the

1072
00:42:20,809 --> 00:42:17,280
Greeks for instance broke everything

1073
00:42:22,609 --> 00:42:20,819
down into ages the gnostics called these

1074
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:22,619
things Aeons

1075
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,500
and each of these Cycles

1076
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,560
had a different major God that was in

1077
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:30,240
charge of everything so the Greeks have

1078
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:32,359
the stories of you know first you have

1079
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:35,880
oranos and Gaia so you have Heaven and

1080
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:38,460
Earth then they split apart

1081
00:42:44,089 --> 00:42:42,000
and in the space in between them then

1082
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:44,099
these other Cycles occur

1083
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:48,060
Uranus is overthrown in the process of

1084
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:50,400
being split apart from his mate

1085
00:42:54,349 --> 00:42:52,440
and then

1086
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,359
see well I'll try not to get too

1087
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,160
detailed here but that story is about

1088
00:43:01,309 --> 00:42:59,520
okay Uranus and Gaia originally are one

1089
00:43:04,130 --> 00:43:01,319
hermaphroditic being

1090
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:04,140
and they're kind of like having sex

1091
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,660
constantly you know and having children

1092
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:08,400
they're engendering children inside the

1093
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:12,300
womb of the female half of the being but

1094
00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:14,579
then those children cannot get out and

1095
00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:17,640
so the story The Myth tells about how

1096
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,560
Uranus was afraid that he was going to

1097
00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:21,839
be usurped by his one of his children

1098
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:24,359
and so he didn't want them to be born

1099
00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:27,300
and then they tell the story of how Gaia

1100
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:30,180
gave Saturn or Kronos you know one of

1101
00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:33,060
the children inside of her a knife to

1102
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:34,859
use to castrate their father and that's

1103
00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:38,160
how Uranus gets overthrown by Saturn

1104
00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:40,380
right and then they say that heaven and

1105
00:43:46,849 --> 00:43:43,140
earth got separated and then that's how

1106
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:46,859
that creation exists and it will cease

1107
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,020
existing if they ever come back together

1108
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:51,599
again somehow and then they say that

1109
00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:54,180
Atlas who is one of the Titans was

1110
00:43:59,210 --> 00:43:57,780
punished but the burden of holding up

1111
00:44:02,089 --> 00:43:59,220
Heaven and Earth

1112
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:02,099
hmm now you've got this story it goes on

1113
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:04,920
so first you got the era of the Titans

1114
00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:07,920
and ruled over by Kronos

1115
00:44:10,849 --> 00:44:09,480
and that's remembered as being the

1116
00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:10,859
Golden Age

1117
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:16,140
then you have Saturn overthrown by Zeus

1118
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:19,800
and the Titans are said to be locked in

1119
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:21,060
Tartarus

1120
00:44:24,349 --> 00:44:22,680
and like I said they're still there

1121
00:44:26,569 --> 00:44:24,359
supposedly they're still alive they're

1122
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,579
underneath us somehow

1123
00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:29,520
so I I'm going through this story here

1124
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:31,380
and incorporating it into my fiction

1125
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:35,040
story and I realized you know I thought

1126
00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:35,940
well

1127
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:38,280
okay Zeus was the main God then during

1128
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:40,980
the Olympian period did they ever say

1129
00:44:44,569 --> 00:44:43,020
that Zeus got overthrown by anyone and

1130
00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:44,579
you know at first I'm thinking well

1131
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:46,020
that's dumb because the Greeks would

1132
00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:47,520
never have said that you know he was

1133
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:49,140
their God so it'd be like us saying oh

1134
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:52,700
God's dead yeah uh which we did say that

1135
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:55,200
so uh maybe there is a comparison there

1136
00:45:01,130 --> 00:44:58,140
but anyway actually they do have some

1137
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,140
specifics about who would have been

1138
00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:03,839
Zeus's error and they say that it was

1139
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:04,980
Apollo

1140
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,380
who was a Sun God and this caused me to

1141
00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:10,640
think well okay people always compare

1142
00:45:17,089 --> 00:45:14,819
Christianity to Sun worship and Jesus is

1143
00:45:19,609 --> 00:45:17,099
always depicted as the son or having a

1144
00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:19,619
kind of a solar halo behind his head and

1145
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:22,740
then all these Christian rituals are you

1146
00:45:29,569 --> 00:45:27,300
know timed to Old pagan holidays usually

1147
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,579
having to do with whatever the sun's

1148
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:31,920
doing at that part of the year you know

1149
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:34,440
equinoxes and soul sisters and things

1150
00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:37,200
like that so you know we definitely have

1151
00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:39,960
kind of a solar warship going on now

1152
00:45:44,270 --> 00:45:43,140
absolutely but I know I wondered you

1153
00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:44,280
know everyone says that's the ancient

1154
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:45,720
worship of the ancient peoples but then

1155
00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:48,180
they were worshiping Jupiter and so to

1156
00:45:51,650 --> 00:45:49,980
try to tighten everything up I just it

1157
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:51,660
occurred to me that maybe this position

1158
00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:54,960
of main God can be likened to the Sun

1159
00:45:59,930 --> 00:45:58,140
and that we have different cycles in

1160
00:46:01,930 --> 00:45:59,940
which someone else plays the role of the

1161
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:01,940
sun yeah

1162
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:04,740
I could see that I mean it's it's pretty

1163
00:46:10,970 --> 00:46:08,220
deep stuff and as we're getting to kind

1164
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,980
of the halfway point here I wanted to

1165
00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:13,440
read something from this great post you

1166
00:46:18,829 --> 00:46:15,960
have on your blog called mad love and it

1167
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:18,839
kind of ties in a lot of the stuff that

1168
00:46:24,410 --> 00:46:22,500
we've talked about so far but you say I

1169
00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:24,420
have revealed a number of symbols some

1170
00:46:29,089 --> 00:46:27,240
of them treasured as concealing great

1171
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,099
spiritual mysteries in the Hermetic

1172
00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:31,380
traditions of Western occultism which

1173
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,660
all seems to be related to the ideas of

1174
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:36,000
raping children consuming human flesh

1175
00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:38,280
and using the bodies of victims both

1176
00:46:43,069 --> 00:46:40,500
dead and alive to breed Supernatural

1177
00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:43,079
entities Golems her monkey lie and many

1178
00:46:48,410 --> 00:46:45,420
other things the souls that are

1179
00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:48,420
incarnated in these rights are ensnared

1180
00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:51,060
by The Magicians performing them seduced

1181
00:46:56,329 --> 00:46:53,460
into coming into our world and then

1182
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:56,339
trapped inside of a carnal container of

1183
00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:00,660
some sort and that is freaky stuff but

1184
00:47:05,089 --> 00:47:02,700
it is in line with what with what a lot

1185
00:47:07,130 --> 00:47:05,099
of people think is going on I guess do

1186
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:07,140
you have any idea what happens next or

1187
00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:09,060
what happens to these beings once

1188
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,099
they're trapped or created and how

1189
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:13,680
they're used I mean obviously our world

1190
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:16,380
goes on without a lot of people knowing

1191
00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:18,900
about this this so I don't know how epic

1192
00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:21,480
it is but do we know how far this goes

1193
00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:23,880
beyond the stories of Crowley we've

1194
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:25,500
heard maybe something in the last

1195
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:28,559
hundred years well

1196
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,240
okay I have my own theories and you know

1197
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:35,040
anyone's free to just make up whatever

1198
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,740
they want I guess but basically I think

1199
00:47:40,910 --> 00:47:38,880
that

1200
00:47:42,730 --> 00:47:40,920
when I'm talking about this ritual of

1201
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:42,740
Conquering the Sun

1202
00:47:49,309 --> 00:47:46,200
that ties in here because

1203
00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:49,319
I saw this being depicted in

1204
00:47:54,109 --> 00:47:52,260
like I said alchemical stories and then

1205
00:47:57,530 --> 00:47:54,119
there's actually

1206
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,540
two kind of fictional versions of the

1207
00:48:01,790 --> 00:48:00,000
old alchemical stories that have been

1208
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:01,800
utilized

1209
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:04,640
in modern times well I'll tell you about

1210
00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:06,420
jordarovski's film The Holy Mountain

1211
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:08,700
this really kind of spelled it out to me

1212
00:48:11,569 --> 00:48:10,200
I thought I was seeing this pattern and

1213
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,579
then I watched his film again and I'm

1214
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:13,440
like oh yeah that's totally what's going

1215
00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:16,260
on because his film he's open about it

1216
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:18,420
you know it's an alchemical allegory and

1217
00:48:23,230 --> 00:48:20,339
he says it's based on

1218
00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:23,240
two things the invisible Mountain book

1219
00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:26,220
by demol forgetting the name of it now

1220
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,900
it's called the maybe it's called The

1221
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:29,040
Invisible mountain or something no it's

1222
00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:31,380
called Mount analog okay and then he's

1223
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,760
got this other one that he basted on

1224
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:34,319
which is chemical wedding of Christian

1225
00:48:40,609 --> 00:48:38,280
rosenkroits so both jodorowski's Holy

1226
00:48:43,549 --> 00:48:40,619
Mountain and it's an inspiration which

1227
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,559
is this book from the 1600s called the

1228
00:48:47,569 --> 00:48:44,880
chemical wedding of Christian

1229
00:48:51,530 --> 00:48:47,579
rosencruits maybe it's 1700s

1230
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:51,540
anyway the story is about

1231
00:48:58,490 --> 00:48:55,260
killing the seven archons the seven

1232
00:49:01,010 --> 00:48:58,500
planetary deities that the Ancients

1233
00:49:02,210 --> 00:49:01,020
thought of as being in control of our

1234
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,220
whole world

1235
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:04,800
and killing them and then regenerating

1236
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:08,460
them so in both the Christian rosenford

1237
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:11,160
story and jodorowski's movie

1238
00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:12,900
you have people

1239
00:49:19,309 --> 00:49:16,980
that are like embodying the you know

1240
00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:19,319
they have the spirits of these Gods

1241
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:20,700
inside of them

1242
00:49:25,549 --> 00:49:23,400
and then they are killed or sacrificed

1243
00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:25,559
and then it's implied that a master

1244
00:49:30,109 --> 00:49:28,260
Alchemist can regenerate them

1245
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:30,119
you're literally melting down their

1246
00:49:37,010 --> 00:49:33,839
bodies damn separating their souls using

1247
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:37,020
the blood and the body material changing

1248
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:38,520
it alchemically through different

1249
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:41,700
scientific processes and then using that

1250
00:49:48,049 --> 00:49:43,980
to form new bodies

1251
00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:48,059
of hosts that will hold the spirits of

1252
00:49:52,970 --> 00:49:50,300
the the ones that you've just sacrificed

1253
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:52,980
and then you make them into a new sun

1254
00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:54,900
and a new moon

1255
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,579
which in the chemical wedding of

1256
00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:58,319
Christian rosencruits they're depicted

1257
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,540
as just having human bodies okay they're

1258
00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:02,400
a new sun and a new moon and they become

1259
00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:04,200
the new king and queen of the universe

1260
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:07,319
and they generate they breed and create

1261
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:10,260
the other five classical planets the

1262
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:12,660
other five gods and there you have the

1263
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,480
gods of a new universe so

1264
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:17,520
this is how I think it's done you have

1265
00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:21,359
to somehow entice the spirits of the

1266
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:25,260
seven gods down from their seats in the

1267
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,420
heavens and get them to come into human

1268
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:29,040
bodies

1269
00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:31,140
and then you can trap them

1270
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:33,660
and yes sacrifice them

1271
00:50:39,250 --> 00:50:37,140
and use those Spirits then to make your

1272
00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:39,260
own universe

1273
00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:41,940
and that's

1274
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,180
it's kind of the story I'm telling

1275
00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:46,800
yeah it's so interesting but it's that

1276
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:48,900
last part creating your own universe

1277
00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:52,319
that I don't know I just don't see maybe

1278
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:53,700
I don't see them because I don't

1279
00:50:56,930 --> 00:50:55,200
recognize them or maybe I can't tell

1280
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,940
what reality would be without this kind

1281
00:51:01,790 --> 00:50:59,280
of magic going on in the Masonic

1282
00:51:03,710 --> 00:51:01,800
basements all over the place but I don't

1283
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,720
know have they made their own Universe I

1284
00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:05,520
guess they kind of have depends on how

1285
00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:07,980
you look at it well we yeah we wouldn't

1286
00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:10,440
know I mean they they might have a whole

1287
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:12,660
bunch of them we might be in one of them

1288
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:13,800
now

1289
00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:15,720
well in the way I'm envisioning it's

1290
00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:16,859
almost like

1291
00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:18,660
you could be in one of them and you

1292
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:20,940
could create some more either inside or

1293
00:51:25,609 --> 00:51:22,680
you could try to get out and create some

1294
00:51:27,290 --> 00:51:25,619
more on the outside and finding out what

1295
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,300
is inside and outside becomes very

1296
00:51:32,030 --> 00:51:29,040
difficult at that point it becomes

1297
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,040
relative doesn't it it does and this is

1298
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,599
something

1299
00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:36,000
I think is you know true like you can't

1300
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,500
really

1301
00:51:41,690 --> 00:51:40,079
get a real perspective on what's up or

1302
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:41,700
down or in and out at a certain point

1303
00:51:44,329 --> 00:51:43,079
you know when you when you break down

1304
00:51:47,089 --> 00:51:44,339
these stories

1305
00:51:49,210 --> 00:51:47,099
down to their Basics Things become very

1306
00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:49,220
confusing I mean how is it that Saturn

1307
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:52,980
is the god of the highest realm up in

1308
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:54,240
the heavens

1309
00:51:59,809 --> 00:51:57,300
but at the same time he's

1310
00:52:02,569 --> 00:51:59,819
trapped in Tartarus supposedly beneath

1311
00:52:03,950 --> 00:52:02,579
us yeah so it you know I thought of it

1312
00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:03,960
as

1313
00:52:08,809 --> 00:52:06,300
the best you can do probably is just

1314
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:08,819
with the memories that you have in your

1315
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:10,140
own culture

1316
00:52:16,490 --> 00:52:14,099
try to arrange them chronologically and

1317
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:16,500
then view it as one thing stacked on top

1318
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:19,740
of another so we right now we're on top

1319
00:52:25,790 --> 00:52:21,960
of Tartarus supposedly well that's got

1320
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,800
the remains of the golden age in it you

1321
00:52:31,790 --> 00:52:28,319
know it's got the remains of that other

1322
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:31,800
universe but we're on top of it and that

1323
00:52:36,430 --> 00:52:33,780
I think is part of the symbolism of

1324
00:52:39,290 --> 00:52:36,440
Atlas holding things up you know

1325
00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:39,300
whoever's on the bottom of something

1326
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,119
else is you know by definition holding

1327
00:52:47,569 --> 00:52:44,640
up the stuff on top so this gets into

1328
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,579
the symbolism that you find in

1329
00:52:52,970 --> 00:52:49,200
Christianity and Freemasonry we've got

1330
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:52,980
the Cornerstone and you know yeah the

1331
00:52:59,150 --> 00:52:56,460
idea of this sacred place that's the

1332
00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:59,160
foundation of something

1333
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,500
you know whatever's on top of it

1334
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,839
another thing too is like this idea that

1335
00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:05,760
we're slaves

1336
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:07,740
part of the slavery is that we're

1337
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:09,720
holding up the worlds that are set on

1338
00:53:14,210 --> 00:53:12,540
top of us right so right I think we

1339
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:14,220
experience this this is just me

1340
00:53:18,829 --> 00:53:16,740
theorizing just pontificating just

1341
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:18,839
making stuff up but this is how I feel

1342
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,300
is we experience this in terms of how

1343
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,880
hard Our Lives seem to be and you know

1344
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,800
does it ever seem to you like the whole

1345
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:31,200
world is an inefficient machine you know

1346
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,420
you're putting in so much work and

1347
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:35,280
getting so little out of it and by

1348
00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:37,760
definition a machine should give you

1349
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:40,380
more product for the work that you put

1350
00:53:44,990 --> 00:53:43,020
in it should be increasing value somehow

1351
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:45,000
well it feels to us like it just got

1352
00:53:50,450 --> 00:53:47,220
value flying out the window we can't

1353
00:53:53,210 --> 00:53:50,460
figure out where it's going and that to

1354
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,220
me is a sign that there is someone else

1355
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:55,760
sucking the juice off the top of us and

1356
00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:58,200
you know we just keep trying and trying

1357
00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:00,180
but we can't make it there's this story

1358
00:54:04,490 --> 00:54:03,180
about in Tartarus that there's these I

1359
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,500
think they're called the neriads or

1360
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:06,480
something there's these three women that

1361
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,960
their punishment is to hold these jars

1362
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:12,240
of water and they're constantly trying

1363
00:54:15,770 --> 00:54:14,220
to fill the jars of water but there's a

1364
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,780
pole in the bottom of them so they're

1365
00:54:20,329 --> 00:54:17,520
constantly leaking so they'll never win

1366
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,339
and that's how I think we are here in

1367
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,319
our universe that is evidence that

1368
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,000
there's something else there's a leak in

1369
00:54:28,450 --> 00:54:26,880
the vessel somehow but it's all part of

1370
00:54:31,549 --> 00:54:28,460
the design you know

1371
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:31,559
absolutely and I love that you said you

1372
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,440
know we're holding up the illusionary

1373
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,000
constructs because that's the kind of

1374
00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:38,880
symbolism that I take in I mean when

1375
00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:41,640
we're talking about created universes or

1376
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:43,619
false realities that's what they these

1377
00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:45,960
things are I mean we're the ones holding

1378
00:54:51,230 --> 00:54:48,359
up the things we're bound to like

1379
00:54:54,109 --> 00:54:51,240
contract law or debt-based currency and

1380
00:54:57,289 --> 00:54:54,119
economic slavery these are all illusions

1381
00:54:59,150 --> 00:54:57,299
that we know are illusionary but we buy

1382
00:55:02,750 --> 00:54:59,160
into them we live our life

1383
00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:02,760
determined by them and sure enough none

1384
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:04,380
of them are natural they're all created

1385
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,160
by these potentially occultists at the

1386
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,559
top of the pyramid and so if you want

1387
00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:12,240
indications that their magic is working

1388
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,700
look at the goddamn mind control and the

1389
00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:16,559
spell we're all under that we literally

1390
00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:18,180
don't do anything on this planet without

1391
00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:20,339
green paper so maybe we should look at

1392
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:23,460
those green paper printers but man this

1393
00:55:28,250 --> 00:55:25,619
has been a great time and I'm not

1394
00:55:30,049 --> 00:55:28,260
surprised we didn't even touch on the

1395
00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:30,059
clintons using their Voodoo knowledge to

1396
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:32,040
curse Haiti twice with an earthquake and

1397
00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:33,359
hurricane and a tug of war they're

1398
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,700
having with Voodoo priests or Arthur C

1399
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,920
Clarke allegedly picking up boys at the

1400
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,839
ping pong tables of the Otters aquatic

1401
00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:42,480
club but there's obviously a lot more

1402
00:55:46,730 --> 00:55:44,520
meat on these bones and we'll definitely

1403
00:55:48,410 --> 00:55:46,740
have to do a future show about the Flat

1404
00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:48,420
Earth and the symbolism around the Sun

1405
00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:50,040
being a false construct that's

1406
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:52,200
interesting to me but man for the

1407
00:55:57,289 --> 00:55:54,420
listeners if they are interested in this

1408
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:57,299
sort of stuff genuflect is a provocative

1409
00:56:01,730 --> 00:55:58,799
fictionalized story that does a great

1410
00:56:03,049 --> 00:56:01,740
deal to flesh out what might be behind a

1411
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,059
lot of these things that we only have

1412
00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:05,520
pieces of in the conspiracy world and of

1413
00:56:09,289 --> 00:56:07,740
course your blog is great too let them

1414
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,299
know where to go if they want to get

1415
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:10,799
further into the stuff we talked about

1416
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:14,160
today okay so the center of Twyman world

1417
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,520
is Tracy twyman.com

1418
00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:20,160
which I'm going to try to keep updated

1419
00:56:24,970 --> 00:56:22,980
more and more and then you can find all

1420
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:24,980
my books on Amazon

1421
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,540
and you know I've got a YouTube channel

1422
00:56:30,530 --> 00:56:29,040
and some other stuff but you can find

1423
00:56:35,410 --> 00:56:30,540
all links to everything if you just go

1424
00:56:41,329 --> 00:56:37,970
t-r-a-c-y-t-w-y-m-a-n.com awesome there

1425
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,339
it is again Tracy big thanks interesting

1426
00:56:45,049 --> 00:56:43,440
as always keep doing what you do and I'm

1427
00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:45,059
sure we'll be doing this again

1428
00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:48,119
great thanks a lot Greg you got it

1429
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,180
boom goes the dynamite Tracy Twyman

1430
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:53,760
people let her hear it straight into the

1431
00:56:58,010 --> 00:56:56,099
deep end of the pool the belief systems

1432
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,020
and occult traditions and rituals of the

1433
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:00,480
elite that Nexus is one of my favorite

1434
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,180
things to do episodes about it's clear

1435
00:57:07,789 --> 00:57:05,819
we can see some ritualized elements of

1436
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:07,799
major events date and number

1437
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,200
coordination so we know there's

1438
00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:12,480
something there but it's really hard to

1439
00:57:16,190 --> 00:57:13,740
know what

1440
00:57:18,109 --> 00:57:16,200
is there even a homogenized esoteric

1441
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:18,119
belief system among the elite or maybe

1442
00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:20,280
there's many with an infinite number of

1443
00:57:26,030 --> 00:57:23,040
ways to interpret each one so it's tough

1444
00:57:28,609 --> 00:57:26,040
I do like that this show coordinated

1445
00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:28,619
with a few other THC things recently for

1446
00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:30,119
Plus members who listened to my

1447
00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:31,500
breakdown of the Consciousness

1448
00:57:36,109 --> 00:57:34,200
conference lectures that Bloomberg smart

1449
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:36,119
building plan Probably sounds a little

1450
00:57:40,849 --> 00:57:37,140
familiar

1451
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,859
also I'm 95 sure that the point Chris

1452
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,720
Knowles was making about the Prometheus

1453
00:57:46,970 --> 00:57:44,880
statue at Rockefeller Center when we

1454
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,980
talked to him a few months ago was that

1455
00:57:51,770 --> 00:57:48,960
he thought it was a cover story for an

1456
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,780
actual tribute to mithras

1457
00:57:56,569 --> 00:57:53,520
so I do think some dots are being

1458
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,579
connected with this one big dots

1459
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:58,799
in fact if you remember the Armenia

1460
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,900
footage I put out from the trip with

1461
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:02,880
Graham Hancock that I took

1462
00:58:09,049 --> 00:58:05,520
one of the sites in that first video is

1463
00:58:12,289 --> 00:58:09,059
Garney Temple it's the only active Still

1464
00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:12,299
Standing Pagan temple in Armenia and it

1465
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:14,220
was actually built they believed to

1466
00:58:21,049 --> 00:58:17,400
venerate I believe it's pronounced Mir m

1467
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:21,059
i h r but that's the sun god in Armenian

1468
00:58:24,609 --> 00:58:22,920
mythology which is most heavily

1469
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:24,619
influenced by

1470
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,359
Zoroastrianism and that Sun God is

1471
00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:30,000
basically an equivalent to Mithra

1472
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:33,240
so two plus bonus tie-ins here although

1473
00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:34,559
I can't pretend to know what it all

1474
00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:36,420
means but I love to hear researchers

1475
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:38,099
make their case for the threads they

1476
00:58:42,170 --> 00:58:40,740
pull the idea of different Sun Gods

1477
00:58:44,569 --> 00:58:42,180
actually representing different

1478
00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:44,579
qualities of the Sun or actually

1479
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,940
different Suns is pretty wild but it's

1480
00:58:51,470 --> 00:58:49,680
so hard to know what the hidden truth is

1481
00:58:54,109 --> 00:58:51,480
behind all this mythology and symbolism

1482
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:54,119
it's something to think about it might

1483
00:58:57,710 --> 00:58:56,220
even tie into the whole Saturn Sun

1484
00:59:00,049 --> 00:58:57,720
theory of

1485
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,059
the electric Universe model and who

1486
00:59:03,950 --> 00:59:01,680
knows what kind of time depths we're

1487
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:03,960
really talking about I definitely don't

1488
00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:06,480
think it's all as simple as luciferian

1489
00:59:10,490 --> 00:59:08,280
Satanist trying to undermine the

1490
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,500
Christian God so don't even bother

1491
00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:12,240
typing that YouTube comment you don't

1492
00:59:16,849 --> 00:59:14,220
need to conspiracy explain this stuff to

1493
00:59:18,410 --> 00:59:16,859
me I've heard it it's just so funny how

1494
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,420
people think they have it all figured

1495
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:20,400
out when they really have probably

1496
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:22,619
barely scratched the surface

1497
00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:25,140
I would never be so arrogant as to say I

1498
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:27,660
know from the outside looking in it's

1499
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,220
too complex and I've made this point

1500
00:59:34,849 --> 00:59:31,760
before too but I was hiking in Denver

1501
00:59:36,650 --> 00:59:34,859
clearly high in more ways than one and I

1502
00:59:39,289 --> 00:59:36,660
was looking at all the geometric shapes

1503
00:59:40,910 --> 00:59:39,299
made by people's shoes in the dirt and

1504
00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:40,920
mud and it just kind of occurred to me

1505
00:59:44,990 --> 00:59:43,140
that if we were all wiped out and

1506
00:59:47,210 --> 00:59:45,000
someone discovered these tracks they

1507
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,220
might be like oh my God these people

1508
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,440
were so enlightened everywhere they went

1509
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,079
they used the energy provided by sacred

1510
00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:54,720
geometry to create vortexes under their

1511
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:56,280
feet and they clearly knew what they

1512
01:00:00,650 --> 00:59:58,920
were doing they were clearly so evolved

1513
01:00:02,809 --> 01:00:00,660
you know Meanwhile we're just a bunch of

1514
01:00:04,730 --> 01:00:02,819
idiots wearing Nikes it's just an

1515
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:04,740
example of how difficult it is to

1516
01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:06,960
interpret something old with little or

1517
01:00:11,630 --> 01:00:09,420
no context and in the case of the elite

1518
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:11,640
secret religion something there

1519
01:00:15,890 --> 01:00:14,280
purposefully being deceptive about

1520
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:15,900
but I hope we gave you something to chew

1521
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:18,720
on Tracy's book genuflect is really

1522
01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:21,359
intriguing a dark conspiracy Enthusiast

1523
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,880
DaVinci Code that's what I would say

1524
01:00:28,130 --> 01:00:26,160
and I also love the concepts of the

1525
01:00:30,589 --> 01:00:28,140
elite trying to jailbreak this

1526
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:30,599
environment that's a lot of fun it

1527
01:00:34,370 --> 01:00:32,460
doesn't necessarily mean they're doing

1528
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,380
it for our benefit I always hear people

1529
01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:36,240
say why are you being an apologist for

1530
01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:38,700
the elite thinking that you support them

1531
01:00:44,329 --> 01:00:41,220
against God and it's like whoa whoa whoa

1532
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:44,339
maybe the Creator God is a tyrant and a

1533
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,839
bunch of tyrants are trying to out

1534
01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:48,240
[\h__\h] the guy meanwhile the masses

1535
01:00:52,250 --> 01:00:49,980
play with [\h__\h] fidget Spinners and

1536
01:00:54,049 --> 01:00:52,260
wait for a new Game of Thrones The Game

1537
01:00:56,589 --> 01:00:54,059
of Thrones is happening people and

1538
01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,599
you're missing the whole damn thing

1539
01:01:01,130 --> 01:00:59,220
but if Tracy wants to do another episode

1540
01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:01,140
about the sun being some type of

1541
01:01:06,170 --> 01:01:03,720
artificial Crystal I am probably down to

1542
01:01:07,970 --> 01:01:06,180
do that soon enough it seems like we're

1543
01:01:10,130 --> 01:01:07,980
going to have a female crow on our hands

1544
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:10,140
here but let me know if you want me to

1545
01:01:14,210 --> 01:01:11,760
get her back on to go deeper into that

1546
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,220
rabbit hole clearly the plush show was

1547
01:01:18,170 --> 01:01:16,319
getting way out there I really didn't

1548
01:01:20,030 --> 01:01:18,180
want it to end we got into Tracy's

1549
01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:20,040
thoughts and interpretations of the

1550
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:21,900
strange symbols and phrases we saw

1551
01:01:26,569 --> 01:01:24,000
during the pizzagate spirit cooking

1552
01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:26,579
season we talked about some further

1553
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,380
Revelations and understandings of

1554
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:30,720
Baphomet that Tracy has come to

1555
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:32,940
why Johnny Depp cutting off the tip of

1556
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:35,220
his own finger might have deeper related

1557
01:01:39,710 --> 01:01:37,319
significance we talked about John D

1558
01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:39,720
diamonds and Superman the work of

1559
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:41,700
Anatoly fomenko and the new chronology

1560
01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:44,760
folks and why humans in the past might

1561
01:01:50,030 --> 01:01:47,400
not have known the color blue oh we went

1562
01:01:52,010 --> 01:01:50,040
for it so of course you might want to

1563
01:01:52,970 --> 01:01:52,020
sign up for THC plus and hear that extra

1564
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,980
hour

1565
01:01:56,569 --> 01:01:54,480
you can check out that conference

1566
01:01:58,490 --> 01:01:56,579
breakdown watch the first Armenia video

1567
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,500
go through the archives and it's five

1568
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:00,480
bucks join the club

1569
01:02:05,450 --> 01:02:03,119
but we did it crazy month for me for

1570
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:05,460
sure so much going on and I still got

1571
01:02:09,529 --> 01:02:07,440
those five shows out I think it was a

1572
01:02:12,109 --> 01:02:09,539
great month for the higher side Matt

1573
01:02:14,569 --> 01:02:12,119
landman Chemtrails and geoengineering

1574
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:14,579
Stephen strong with the Out of Africa

1575
01:02:20,089 --> 01:02:17,760
stuff magnora 7 with the Rothschilds

1576
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:20,099
carving up Africa and Cecil Rhodes and

1577
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:23,400
the De Beers stuff JM deboard on dreams

1578
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,160
and then Tracy Twyman on Ancient Elite

1579
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,079
occult orders and the Conquering of the

1580
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:30,960
sun ritual lots of diverse topics with

1581
01:02:35,210 --> 01:02:33,000
great guests and if you don't have THC

1582
01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:35,220
Plus for five bucks you could go and get

1583
01:02:39,470 --> 01:02:37,140
the second half of all those shows and

1584
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:39,480
more and I think the extra hours are

1585
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,000
definitely worth a dollar and you also

1586
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:44,160
allow me to buy higher quality meat when

1587
01:02:47,569 --> 01:02:45,359
you sign up

1588
01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:47,579
but who cares about me you do it for you

1589
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:50,400
but that's about it oh there's also a

1590
01:02:54,770 --> 01:02:52,559
new Higher Side chats shirt at

1591
01:02:57,230 --> 01:02:54,780
thehighersideclothing.com

1592
01:02:59,930 --> 01:02:57,240
three symbols that represent conspiracy

1593
01:03:02,809 --> 01:02:59,940
paranormal and the Occult a Bioshock

1594
01:03:04,670 --> 01:03:02,819
inspired theme and I really love it

1595
01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:04,680
people have been asking for a shirt that

1596
01:03:09,529 --> 01:03:07,140
actually says the higher side chats for

1597
01:03:11,809 --> 01:03:09,539
a while now and we haven't had one

1598
01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:11,819
because I just like the shirts that are

1599
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,460
about something but either way new logo

1600
01:03:18,289 --> 01:03:16,799
shirts are pretty cool and again big

1601
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,299
thanks to Tracy and I'll see you guys

1602
01:03:23,630 --> 01:03:20,640
soon thanks for listening I've done what

1603
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:23,640
I can your move mystery Cults esoteric

1604
01:03:30,370 --> 01:03:26,400
Elites and reality Weavers you're

1605
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:34,970
no one knows what it's like to be the

1606
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:37,680
bad man

1607
01:03:49,250 --> 01:03:45,710
Behind Blue Eyes

1608
01:03:52,690 --> 01:03:49,260
and no one knows what it's like

1609
01:03:56,650 --> 01:03:52,700
we hated

1610
01:04:00,490 --> 01:03:56,660
to be faded

1611
01:04:03,010 --> 01:04:00,500
telling only lies

1612
01:04:08,049 --> 01:04:03,020
but my

1613
01:04:10,329 --> 01:04:08,059
dreams art is empty

1614
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:10,339
as my

1615
01:04:16,670 --> 01:04:12,559
conscience

1616
01:04:20,109 --> 01:04:18,250
[Music]

1617
01:04:23,390 --> 01:04:20,119
words

1618
01:04:27,250 --> 01:04:23,400
only lonely

1619
01:04:30,190 --> 01:04:27,260
since they've exposed me

1620
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:30,200
on THC

1621
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:36,079
[Music]

1622
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:39,839
no one knows what it's like

1623
01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:43,440
feel these feelings

1624
01:04:51,309 --> 01:04:46,619
like I do

1625
01:04:58,150 --> 01:04:55,130
No One Bites back his heart

1626
01:05:02,289 --> 01:04:58,160
on their anger

1627
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:02,299
none of my pain won't

1628
01:05:09,289 --> 01:05:06,240
can show through

1629
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:09,299
but my dreams

1630
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,309
I can't

1631
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:24,470
seems to be

1632
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:26,089
about ours

1633
01:05:38,290 --> 01:05:33,010
say exposed me

1634
01:06:21,280 --> 01:05:40,250
[Music]

1635
01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:21,290
[Applause]

1636
01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:30,380
[Music]

1637
01:06:39,069 --> 01:06:35,180
words always lonely

1638
01:06:42,090 --> 01:06:39,079
since they exposed me

1639
01:06:47,630 --> 01:06:42,100
on THC

1640
01:06:54,609 --> 01:06:52,490
no one knows what it's like to be the

1641
01:06:58,860 --> 01:06:54,619
bad man

1642
01:07:02,089 --> 01:06:58,870
to be the sad man